Reed,
>
>I would assert that you have to tell yourself when
>you've had enough. But if, in your reflective moment,
>you have established a principle as core to your beliefs
>you would be foolish to let someone bully you
>into thinking differently or acting out of sorts.
>
It sounds like you are eager to change the mind of the rationalist, but you're not open to having your own mind changed. Is this the essence of level 3? "Do as I say, not as I do"?
(Expected response: "Bingo! It's almost like you're telepathic")