Re: virus: Haven't we been around this bend before?

David McFadzean (morpheus@lucifer.com)
Sun, 7 Mar 1999 16:43:00 -0700

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From: Reed Konsler <konsler@ascat.harvard.edu> Date: Sunday, March 07, 1999 10:55 AM

>"Reason is a disciplined way of thinking, its purpose is to create
>a useful model of the world."
>
>and
>
>"Faith is a disciplined way of thinking, its purpose is to create
>a useful model of the world."

Like ERiC, I'm surprised by your definition of faith. Still, I'm willing to be convinced.

>We can develop the difference between <reason> and <faith>
>shortly...but can we agree that both spring from the desire
>to create a disciplined model of the world?

I would first like to hear how you think faith *creates* the model. That seems to be a key issue.

>Rule #2: Each player has the right to change their mind as quickly
>or as slowly as they choose.

I will wait to read your response to TheHermit's points on this.

>Rule #3: Changing of a mind may be accomplished either by changing
>terms, or by reinterpreting old terms according to a new frame of
>reference.

Agreed, but I can see a potential problem. What if we end up redefining "faith" or "reason" to such an extent that they wouldn't be recognized outside this discussion? Does it matter?

>Rule #4: The meaning of a word is context dependent, not intrinsic.

Agreed, so long we attempt to make the context explicit when there seems to be confusion.

Rule #5 (proposed): Players shall endeavor to avoid logical fallacies in their statements.

David