Re: virus: Propaganda and Travel

Jim (magicjim@islc.net)
Fri, 16 Apr 1999 13:05:28 -0500

And I partly agree also, You are correct the lack of opposition is the case at present ( Generally the public is rather unconcerned as a whole )but I think if or when he does. And if it viewed as his choice Big Bill will find himself hanging on a media cross. And if that happens the issue of China shall show its head again. At present he is not the real topic of interest with the media. I was discussing this with a friend who is a editor for a local paper. His reply was yep we love a war to the exclusion of all else. He was stating that his people do not the American public. Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Sodom <sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com> Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: virus: Propaganda and Travel

>I only partly agree, I think he was expecting a great deal of opposition
for
>ground troops, and is finding out that that is not the case, but committed
>himself and simply doesnt wanna look bad.
>
>Bill Roh
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com
>> [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
>> Of Jim
>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 12:25 PM
>> To: virus@lucifer.com
>> Subject: Re: virus: Propaganda and Travel
>>
>>
>> Bill keeps saying no ground troops so that he may remain
>> popular. When the
>> time arises. The U.N. will force him into it so he has an out
>> and will again
>> remain popular( he did not break his promise the other
>> countries made him).
>> He will feel great remorse and commiserate with the families
>> of the fallen.
>> It is just my thought on what the wiggler is up to.
>> Jim
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sodom <sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
>> To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
>> Date: Friday, April 16, 1999 9:43 AM
>> Subject: RE: virus: Propaganda and Travel
>>
>>
>> >Yea, what he said!!!!
>> >
>> >I wonder what meme it is that has Clinton continually saying
>> "no ground
>> >troops". I can understand screwing around, but why this
>> policy? Of what
>> >benefit is eliminating this option so publicly?
>> >
>> >About the "Force Meme" - I must admit it that I agree it is
>> the only one
>> >currently understood by Milosovic that I am aware of. All
>> the years that I
>> >was much more passive (read anti-military) I could not understand why
>> people
>> >would say "all they understand is violence" about people like Saddam
>> >Hussein. I was in denial that people could have goals so
>> utterly opposed to
>> >peace. It took a long time to realize that there are people
>> in the world
>> who
>> >put power ahead of peace, and so far in history, violence
>> has been the only
>> >means of dealing with this type or leader.
>> >
>> >Does anyone have an alternative that is viable?
>> >
>> >Bill Roh
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: owner-virus@lucifer.com
>> >> [mailto:owner-virus@lucifer.com]On Behalf
>> >> Of joe dees
>> >> Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 4:15 AM
>> >> To: virus@lucifer.com
>> >> Subject: Re: virus: Propaganda and Travel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> No, we should withdraw, and let thousands be slaughtered and
>> >> hundreds of thousands be deported and dispossessed, simply
>> >> because we are not perfect and errorless warriors, therefore
>> >> no better than the latest Hitler clone Europe has spawned!
>> >> At this point, I firmly am convinced that Milosevic is
>> >> hunkering down in Belgrade bunkers whilst waging his
>> >> propaganda war via the internet and CNN and instructing the
>> >> Tiger Brigades to accelerate their genocide and forced
>> >> relocation programs, and that nothing short of a ground war
>> >> will deter him. The only way to deal with bullies is to
>> >> royally and regally kick their ever-luvin' asses, for the
>> >> force meme is the only one which will sway them. The longer
>> >> we wait, the worse it'll be. Let's do it and get this behind
>> >> us, rather than having it hang ahead of us like a Sword of
>> >> Damocles. Sure, the medicine's bitter, in terms of lives
>> >> lost and money spent, but we'll feel much better when the
>> >> global body politic is free of this fascist disease, an!
>> >> !
>> >> d while we delay, the infection will only get worse, and
>> >> ultimately require more drastic ameliorative measures.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At Thu, 15 Apr 1999 21:54:37 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >bombing more civilians.. *twitch twitch* my what
>> >> >nice thoughts.
>> >> >I personally think we should have never really stuck
>> >> >our noses into it in the first place. Not this far
>> >> >anyways. We ought to pick and choose our battles more
>> >> >carefully.. Things much worse than the Kosovo crises
>> >> >have surely occured, and we have stood by, doing
>> >> >nothing. Ahh the wonderful US
>> >> >
>> >> >~Fianna
>> >> >
>> >> >--- the great tinkerer
>> >> ><tinkerer@tinkerers-workshop.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >About Propaganda. It is nice to
>> >> >> >see, although disturbing to hear, about the
>> >> >> civilian casualties caused by
>> >> >> >NATO bombs. At lease I know our news is reporting
>> >> >> our failures as well as
>> >> >> >successes. Does the fact that we have now caused
>> >> >> significant civilian
>> >> >> >casualties affect anyone's view of what actions
>> >> >> should be taken?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> to be even sicker than you:
>> >> >> i think we should bomb more civilians.. help the
>> >> >> over population problem ;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ~the great tinkerer
>> >> >> tinkerer@tinkerers-workshop.com
>> >> >> http://www.tinkerers-workshop.com/
>> >> >> http://www.tinkerers-workshop.com/order/form.shtml
>> >> >> - order my cd!!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >
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>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> Joe E. Dees
>> >> Poet, Pagan, Philosopher
>> >>
>> >>
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