Re: virus: Technology (was manifest science)

Joe E. Dees (joedees@bellsouth.net)
Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:29:13 -0500

Date sent:      	Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:27:45 -0700 (PDT)
From:           	Dylan Durst <ddurst@levien.com>
To:             	virus@lucifer.com
Subject:        	Re: virus: Technology (was manifest science)
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> > Pattern becomes progressively more important as you climb the
> > ladder of complexity. With humans, it is all-important.
> > Disassemble the human brain and you possess the same material,
> > but the person is irretrieveably lost.
>
> I would be interested to know if a brain were frozen solid, each atom
> was seperated, put in a jar, then placed back together again, how that
> would feel. Who knows, there may be some methods of disassembly that do
> not lose the 'person.' Such a claim is an assumption.
>
> > Bare carbon chains bereft of pattern decides not how they spin;
> > within certain limits, we do.
>
> Who knows? Maybe there is some neural-logic gates at the subatomic
> levels that allows a self-referencing recursive self-awareness proccess to
> occur where the atoms choose to spin. I don't. To say that consciouness
> exists only at our macro/micro size in the universe is equivalent
> to saying that Jesus is a savior, IMHO. I haven't seen it, but patterns
> tend to repeat in fractal nature.
>
Nothing that small could possess sufficient complexity to breach the Godelian limit beyond which self-reference may manifest. Your fractal-fairy micro-consciousness contention is equivalent to claiming that unicorns could be screwing watermelons under the surface of the moon, despite all the logical and scientific reasons to discount same, simply because you have not looked inside the moon to verify that they are not.
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> - dylan
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