Re: virus: Simulacrum

David McFadzean (
Wed, 15 May 1996 15:41:11 -0600

At 12:20 AM 13/05/96 -0400, Bill Godby wrote:

>is continually in flux. The simulation or simulacra is a hallmark of the
>postmodern world. Not to wander off into a huge discourse about this, the

Could you elaborate a bit on what is meant by postmodern, deconstructionism
and semeiotics (or perhaps point to some relevant sources). I have had a
suspicion for years now that there must be something to it.

>relates to buying the product. Artists take familiar images and put them in
>a different context where they become unreal semblances to their
>counterparts to illustrate just how bound meaning is to environment or
>perhaps revealing a social message in the process.

One of my favourite aspects of the music of Skinny Puppy, Ministry,
Front Line Assembly and the like is the inclusion of samples from
movies and television, taken out of context and, ipso facto, given
new meaning. A few years ago I posted an essay to
arguing that industrial music is a kind of "pop music" in the same sense
that Andy Warhol's creations were "pop art".

David McFadzean       
Memetic Engineer      
Church of Virus