Re: virus: Science

KMO prime (
Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:35:14 EDT

If we restrict the meaning of the word dogma to it's religious sense,
then the claim that scientists adhere to scientific dogma PRESUPPOSES
that science is a religion. That is just what is at issue and what
cannot be presupposed. If we allow the use of the term dogma in the
sense of an arrogant assertion, then we can describe scientists as
behaiving dogmatically without making any contentious presuppositions,
but hey, I've already pulled out of this disscussion, so never mind.

Take care. -KMO

On Fri, 20 Sep 1996 10:11:25 +0000 Martin Traynor <>
>On 19 Sep 96 at 11:32, Patricia & John Crooks wrote:
>> Am I being really nit-picking to say that I really wish you people
>> stop tossing the word dogma around like it has no specific meaning?
>Apologies. My Concise Oxford defines dogma as
>1 a principle, tenet, or system of these esp. as laid down by
>authority of a church
>2 an arrogant declaraiton of opinion
>and you are quite correct. As we are speaking about religion then 1
>should apply. Replace the word with definition 2 where applicable ;)
>> >On another level, science as religious dogma is plain for all to
>> >Faith in its abilities abound, among people who don't necessarily
>> >even know or care what science is. I mean faith here in a very
>> >sense - belief without supporting evidence.
>> Oooh, I see another nit.:-} I disagree with this as a definition of
>> religious faith.
>1 complete trust or confidence
>2 firm belief esp. without logical proof
>I was using 2 but I should have specified scientific evidence.
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