virus: Re: RE: Abortion (formerly AIDS Meme)

Hakeeb A. Nandalal (nanco@trinidad.net)
Wed, 30 Oct 1996 16:25:00 +0000


Ken Sartor wrote :-

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> .....
> My opposition is not with you, or this subject. Rather it is with
> viewpoints that are so firmly entrenched that they do not allow
> for other points of view to be examined. This causes an us vs them
> mentality which creates strife needlessly. It is what i dislike
> about some religious groups. It is what i dislike about the
> political correctness movement in the states. It is what i dislike
> about each of the extreme sides of the abortion issue (what the heck,
> i argue it both ways ;) ).

Hey, this is a discussion remember? I made my points, if you disagree then show me why. IMHO some things are
just worth fighting for, if I'm adamant that doesn't make close-minded - especially if I'm using reason to
back up my points.

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Let's go back to the drawing board :-

>From "Virian Ethics" :-
http://www.lucifer.com/virus/ethics.html

No other system of thought in history has proven more effective. If truth is the goal, rationality is the
way. A good Virion will endeavor to hold a consistent set of beliefs and act in accordance with those beliefs.
Think critically, act rationally.

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There can be no logical argument against apathy. If you don't care about anything then that is pretty much the
end of the story. If you don't care about leading a meaningless life, then surely apathy is the key.

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An association with similar goals to the CoV are the Humanist Society of Victoria. This might be of interest
to some :-

The Affirmations of Humanism
http://vicnet.net.au/vicnet/humanist/affirm.htm

A Statement of Principles and Values

We are committed to the application of reason and science to the
understanding of the universe and to the solving of human problems.

We are committed to the principle of the separation of church and
state.

We are concerned with securing justice and fairness in society and
with eliminating discrimination and intolerance.

We attempt to transcend divisive parochial loyalties based on race,
religion, gender, nationality, creed, class sexual orientation, or
ethnicity, and to strive to work together for the common good of humanity.

We respect the right to privacy. Mature adults should be allowed to
fulfill their aspirations, to express their sexual preferences, to
exercise reproductive freedom, to have access to comprehensive and
informed health care, and to die with dignity.

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The last point is critical to my argument, "mature adults" and "reproductive freedom" - the right to * not *
reproduce is an inherent aspect of that freedom.

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