>Or is it another way of saying God is helping the man that is helping himself?
That's fine if you're Homo Deus, the oxymoron lays when the desperate
mob come to mighty Homo Deus and treat him as their own God, begging for
their salavation - "Homo Deus help us".
That refers to your response too, David.
As for Hakeeb, I hope you don't take it personally - I'm about 1.77 if
that helps you classify me :)