Re: virus: Re: Level 3

Eva-Lise Carlstrom (
Tue, 12 Nov 1996 22:25:00 -0800 (PST)

>From Ken Pantheists:
> Again, I feel compelled to point out the high level of construction in
> your statement. Do you see that it is necessarily contrary? I would say,
> what is the difference between social reasoning and logical reasoning?
> Who invented these? Are they still useful terms? I often have problems
> with the idea of conscious and subconcious. What did people do before
> freud? Heavens, they walked around with one brain instead of three. What
> need did freud's idea of a subconcious fill?

It provided an explanation for why people often do things without being
able to explain why, and how we can know things without knowing how we
learned them, and a lot of other similar phenomena of not knowing our own
minds. I know *I* don't have full access at will to everything that's in
*my* mind, which I would be expected to if there were no concept of the

> My personal belief (not informed by hard study, just opinion) is that it
> enabled him to explain why so many young women were being sexually
> abused in their own homes in an environment of repression without coming
> out and saying, "these women were abused". Even if he wasn't doing this
> per se, freud's idea became a release valve for victorian sexuality.
> But that's a digression.
Both true enough.