Re: virus: Dawkins is an idiot

David McFadzean (david@lucifer.com)
Sun, 24 Nov 1996 14:36:49 -0700


At 09:18 PM 27/08/70 +0000, David Leeper wrote:

>Yes, I know like produces like. However, sometimes emotional arguments can
>make points that rational ones can't, such as people tend to follow what
Dawkins
>says without really stopping to think about the meaning of what he's saying.

I would like to strongly discourage this type of argument. Even if your
misguided attempt to get people to question Dawkins assertions via
argumentum ad hominem
(http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/logic.html#hominem)
was partially successful, that doesn't change the fact that it was literally
a bad argument.

>Much of the effect of using a Dawkins quote comes from the power of his
>personality, not from the rationality of his words.

Much of the effect of using a Dawkins quote comes from his status as
an expert in the field of evolutionary biology (and there is nothing
wrong with that).

>I think that point has been made on this thread and it's much more useful to
>realize this point than to argue about this or that aspect of some theory.
>I think this point was made _because_ I attacked Dawkins the way I did.
>(So I guess I don't really "regret" it after all.)

I regret getting sucked into that waste of time and effort (and believe
me it did take a lot of time and effort). If your goal was to lose a great
deal of credibility on this list you have succeeded admirably.

Yes I'm bitter, does it show? ... :-)

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