Re: virus: Dawkins is an idiot

David McFadzean (
Sun, 24 Nov 1996 14:36:49 -0700

At 09:18 PM 27/08/70 +0000, David Leeper wrote:

>Yes, I know like produces like. However, sometimes emotional arguments can
>make points that rational ones can't, such as people tend to follow what
>says without really stopping to think about the meaning of what he's saying.

I would like to strongly discourage this type of argument. Even if your
misguided attempt to get people to question Dawkins assertions via
argumentum ad hominem
was partially successful, that doesn't change the fact that it was literally
a bad argument.

>Much of the effect of using a Dawkins quote comes from the power of his
>personality, not from the rationality of his words.

Much of the effect of using a Dawkins quote comes from his status as
an expert in the field of evolutionary biology (and there is nothing
wrong with that).

>I think that point has been made on this thread and it's much more useful to
>realize this point than to argue about this or that aspect of some theory.
>I think this point was made _because_ I attacked Dawkins the way I did.
>(So I guess I don't really "regret" it after all.)

I regret getting sucked into that waste of time and effort (and believe
me it did take a lot of time and effort). If your goal was to lose a great
deal of credibility on this list you have succeeded admirably.

Yes I'm bitter, does it show? ... :-)

David McFadzean       
Memetic Engineer      
Church of Virus