RE: virus: Re: virus-digest V1 #110

Richard Brodie (
Thu, 12 Dec 1996 12:41:56 -0800

Dave Pape wrote:

>I took
>the interpretation that Richard was distinguishing his OWN abilities to
>resist the influence of memes from other people's. If he confesses to
>100% out of control of the memes/ideas in his brain, I'll retract. ;-)

I control the memes in my mind in many ways. One is by watching very
little television. One is by self-analysis. My book "Getting Past OK" is
largely about ways to do that.
>But... my point is that, whether we "choose" between two Colas, or 60
>and drinking from puddles, there's really no choice at all because what
>perceive as "choice" arises purely from some set of ideas/memes winning
>control over our body (which, in the end, executes our actions). And
>memetic processing proceeds according to evolutionary forces.

One of those evolutionary forces is your own consciousness. The more
aware you are of memetics, the more you can guide your driving memes and
thus your behavior in a self-chosen direction.
>>I don't think many people here believe in the non manipulation of
>>thought. What, I think, we do believe in is that one can develop the
>>skills to have a stronger "hand" in manipulating their own thoughts.
>Can you? What ARE those skills? Aren't they just other meme-structures,
>as much in control of your actions as the old, Coke-fixated ideas were?

That skill is what I call (hold your breath) Level 3. It's not just
another meme structure any more than your brain is just another cell
>Richard Brodie +1.206.688.8600
>CEO, Brodie Technology Group, Inc., Bellevue, WA, USA
>Do you know what a "meme" is?