RE: virus: MEME UPDATE: To Censor Or Not?

Dave Pape (
Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:17:41 GMT

>Read the trailer on my email. I'm quoting myself.

Thanks Mr B.

>> >[CLIP]
>> >
>> >> >2) I would phrase it as the freedom-consciousness inequalities.
>> >>
>> >> Ah! Why? Are we talking Venn diagram overlaps here? Sorry, you're
talking to
>> >> someone who's only been FORGETTING maths for the last 10 years I'm afraid.
>> >
>> >Yes, that's one context to interpret it in.
>> Good... although I didn't even really understand THAT context... a lucky
>> >Actually, you don't seem to be forgetting it too fast; I'm interpreting
>> >the inclusion relation as an underpowered "<". [It isn't always
>> >defined, but it works properly otherwise....] The technical term
>> >is "partially ordered set", or "poset".
>> So... Big set = consciousness, subset = freedom? I was kind of aiming for
>> freedom being EMPTY set.
>Right on! I'm not conceding the empty set yet, but I have
>subjectively/empirically verified that I can be conscious without
>(superficial) free choice. Romans 7 also documents this impressively.

Okay. Until I've done my thinking about Godel's implications, I'm going to
stop hammering the freewill point quite so much, JUST IN CASE I have to
climb down. But don't hold your breaths!

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