Re: virus: Definition of meme (from alt.memetics)

Alexander Williams (
Thu, 02 Jan 1997 18:19:03 -0500

Wade T.Smith wrote:
> Yes, indeed, to a point, but I've always been a little disappointed with
> such looseness, and any 'hard' science does not deal with imprecise
> terms. I would like memetics to be a 'hard' science.

I'd like to solve the `hard AI' problem, too, but a man's got to know
his limitations. :) I don't expect Memetics to be any harder field
than, say, Jungian analysis or sociology. Because of the fluid nature
of the topic, the science has to be similarly fluid.

> Recent discoveries about memory and the agents thereof set off my current
> train of thought, where memes are, yes thusly, neurochemical in basis
> (ain't everything?), and there would need to be the memetics of why they
> are in the location they are, cuz in memory, location is important,
> though not everything. The processes of memory would _be_ memetics.

I think it might be the process of /accessing/ memory where the actual
mechanisms of memetics rear. Its only when you're considering
information, reviewing it, etc, that memes interact.

> Yes, seems I have bought in. Just increasing my investment, I guess....

I have /got/ to get a heretical set of robes ...

   Alexander Williams { /}
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