Re: virus: Truth

Dave Pape (
Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:22:22 GMT

At 23:11 25/02/97 -0500, Reed wrote:
>>I think it's like teaching kids the chemical equation:

>> Ca(OH)2 + CO2 -> CaCO3 + H2O

>>This equation is okay as an approximate explanation, but doesn't reflect
>>what actually goes on in a test tube.

>Doesn't it depend on what those symbols mean to you? That equation may be
>a short-had way of eliciting ALL the information you are talking about. I
>agree that a Senior in high school probably doesn't have so sophisticated
>an understanding and a 3rd grader would be mystified.

Well yeh... I was being absolutist, which is always a cool way to set
yourself up for a leathering. Consider my scone well and truly kippered.

I'm really saying that I'd prefer Richard to make a more detailed and
explicit model of how memes work, to tell me what his shorthand's for, if
that's what it is, because his shorthand doesn't elicit, in my mind, all of
my memes about how memes interact. I'd be even more in disagreement with
Richard if he said, "there is one level to cognition, it's when you, like
think of stuff," ie if he used even more condensed shorthand.

BUT Richard doesn't seem (yet) to say, "yup, it is shorthand, here's some
longer hand, I agree that there's more to it than is implicit in the
formulations I've posted so far,"... so I'm assuming that he genuinely
thinks that there are distinct levels to memetic processing, whereas I don't.

Dave Pape
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