Re: virus: Rationality

tom.holz (tom.holz@pobox.com)
Fri, 28 Feb 1997 02:19:29 -0400


At 12:22 AM 2/28/97 -0500, you wrote:
>> pardon my interuption, but I formed a very vivid image reading this, and
>> well, my "memes" "want" "me" "to tell" "you" "about it".
>
>Since I firmly believe that "you" are merely the emergent behavioural
>complex arising from the interaction of your memesphere with its
>environment, including the signs and portents of my last missive,
>there's no /you/ seperable from the /your memes/ for "them" as a
>seperate entity to "want" to do anything; the desire to do so is a
>memetic trigger in the evocation of behaviour in your memesphere. :)

Never trust a simple sentence, that's what I say.

>Better yet, both of them are trapped in said `unopened wombs' and are
>trying to make themselves understood to the other.

now, then--that's a bit gross, doncha think? ...wait ...different people
...have different associations ...and gross therefore ...is not an
interplanetary constant ...or even something to be avoided... awyea!
watch how my brain appears ear/rational.

>That's actually not a bad image for it; thank you. If we were trapped
>in unopened wombs, we might, given time and experience, eventually
>develop a protocol whereby a certain rather gross movement /implied/
>that I'm thinking about opening a vacule for feeding and another
>scrunch of my membrane implies I'm looking to mate. You can only see
>it dimly, however, and I can't always move as carefully or as properly
>as I like, so misinterpretation is pretty rife. Still, the protocol
>can be refined.

The image I saw wasn't quite so organic, but since we are both in our own
little places, the fact we have been able to get this far in "objectively"
agreeing on a description of our environment has to say something
good^H^H^H^H.

>At no time do we actually transfer protoplasm. You observe my signs
>and portents and interpret. I do likewise. Nothing is transmitted,
>there is just intent and implication.

I would agree with you more here, but I have seen too many people have
"heated conversations"--what my little sister calls two people who both
agree that abortion is just about the doorstep to hell and work each other
into a veritable tizzy doing it.

You are wrong, er... not Right.

and btw, my brain is /far/ too active right now--I've thought about adding
comments on how I chose what I commented on, on why I used so many '...'s,
on which methods detailed in Manip. 101 I have been using. If only I could
be like this all the time... sigh.... hope hope hope dreamy bliss...
sigh.... "I /just/ wish someone would come along and point out how I could
stay in this state of mind more often"... sigh

tom i haven't read the book yet holz

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