RE: virus: Zen (was Lakoff Lecture)

Eva-Lise Carlstrom (
Mon, 17 Mar 1997 23:22:06 -0800 (PST)

On Mon, 17 Mar 1997, Robin Faichney wrote:

> Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
> >I only point out that the
> >practice of Zazen and the experience of Satori has nothing to do with
> >those things, and are valuable exercises even for a philosopher.
> *Even* for a philosopher? Goodness me. But maybe you mean just
> that the use of metaphor is not *real* philosophy. I don't believe that
> the ontology of abstractions is a worthwhile concern, so I'll happily
> let that go. But back in the real world, metaphors are among the
> most ubiquitous and most useful mental tools we have -- and the
> fact that some folk mistake map for territory is not a good enough
> reason to ditch them.

Indeed, we couldn't ditch metaphor without ditching thought.