Re: virus: Four Principles Digest

Tadeusz Niwinski (
Mon, 24 Mar 1997 13:21:53 -0800

Drakir wrote:
>Cheers for the summary of the Four Principles debate thingy. I think
>I'm begining to understand what the confusion is about.
>I hope you don't mind, I'm going to add little comments where I
>feel appropriate.
>> Richard Brodie, Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:08:59 -0800
>> A dangerous notion. The Nazis didn't misunderstand anything. They were
>> schooled in the Four Principles, which I never repeat, because anyone
>> who knows them can easily create a runaway movement.
>So? People are going to do that anyway. Why hasn't the Broadster himself
>set up a runaway movement?

He *is* setting it up.
Introducing supremacy of Level-3ers on this list is an evident attempt.

> I mean, if every Politics student studying
>Nat. Soc. set up a rogue Nazi party, we'd be fucked, wouldn't we?

Right. If he really didn't want to spread the bad meme, he wouldn't mention
it. If he mentions it -- and mentions it twice! (as the first time it
didn't catch enough attention) -- it's likely that he has a purpose.

>> Almost one month later:
>> Richard Brodie, Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 08:23:13 -0800
>> It's not only possible, but a main way that sophisticated modern mind
>> viruses work. Hitler spread his Four Principles in his speeches. Taken
>> together, they cause the host to become a Nazi. His experiment was
>> repeated successfully in only a few days by a high school teacher in
>> Palo Alto, California a few years ago. The teacher quickly disbanded the
>> class.
>Ahah, I remember reading this post, and it didn't mean a thing to me.
>In context, I guess it makes more sense.
>You're telling me that he hasn't told anyone what the Four Principles
>are? Why?

That's right. He, nor anyone else, hasn't described the 4P's. Why? The
mystery meme in his meme-complex? I think David R. explained it quite well
in one of the manipulation's lessons. Good thing Richard is part of this
list and he can say something here (if he wants to).

Regards, Tadeusz (Tad) Niwinski from planet TeTa (604) 985-4159