Re: virus: God and Level-3

Dave Pape (
Mon, 31 Mar 1997 17:22:23 +0100 (BST)

At 21:40 30/03/97 -0800, Tim wrote:

>If beliefs can affect reality (through our actions) than aren't they an
>element in the determination of reality. R(t) = c*R(t-1)*b where R is
>reality, t is time, b is belief, and c is some constant representing the
>ebb and flow of entropy and/or novelty.
>Maybe "b" could be replaced in the equation with "m" for memetic ecology?
>Something like:
> R(t) = c*R(t-1)*m(t-1)
>Hmmm... and if I were to continue to rant it might follow that,

Ha ha ha, I like this line. It's a cute pisstake of better-than-me
mathematicians' lines like "from this it is obvious that", which always
precede a line of insane maths gibberish that I fully don't get. "And, if I
talk in even more abstract nutter-language, you will be pissed off that:" ... :)

> m(t) = m(t-1)*f{R(t-1)}

Hang on, I actually almost get this... are you saying:

State of a memetic ecology at time t is a function of the state of that
ecology at time (t-1) and the state of Reality at time (t-1)?

>where the function f is a sort of feedback pressure on the meme ecology.

Well, kind of, except I'd replace your variable R with the variable P, which
is PerceivedReality, except shit no, you can divide through by Memes on both
sides, reducing the equation back to more or less what you wrote. Shit. Soz.
I'll calm down.

Dave Pape
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