Re: virus: Re:Strange attractors and meta-religions (was God and Level-3)

David McFadzean (
Mon, 7 Apr 1997 23:50:02 -0600

> From: D. H. Rosdeitcher <>
> Date: Sunday, April 06, 1997 9:22 PM

> When I first came to CoV about 10 weeks ago, I thought it was just a memetics
> discussion group, knowing nothing about the structure. It seemed like everyone
> was just attacking me, and not offering their ideas. I think that the structure
> of the forum should be made clear from the outset.

Do you think you can rewrite history without anyone noticing? Maybe you weren't
aware that there is an archive of every message posted to this list available
to anyone that cares to look on the web. Let's let the facts speak for themselves.
David R. subscribed to the virus mailing list on Jan. 29.

Message #1:
Jan. 29 [C of V: Another Religion]
"It seems to me that the Church of Virus is promoting a mystical notion by
denying free will and claiming that the 'meme' is a higher power that controls
individuals and societies. "

Message #4:
Feb. 3 [Anti-Virus Protection]
"For instance, when I showed why the ideology promoted by the Church
of Virus is bogus, some people chose to ignore me. There's nothing I can do
about that. However, just as a parasite is dependent on its host, the dishonest
members of CoV are dependent on honest members being duped and confused by such
dopey ideologies. For most of these dishonest members, the big payoff is a
drug-like high of manipulating others. However, for the few most cleverly
dishonest members, the big payoff is financial-their *livelihood* depends on
manipulating others."

message #8:
Feb. 4 [The War is On!!!]
"The reason I wrote this was because I felt embarrassed, that when I made the
attack, I was not correct about certain specifics-I never saw a situation
exactly like this one where people have a hidden code of behavior that I was
unfamiliar with. However, the essence of what I was saying, about the dishonesty
and the neocheating, was correct. Now I am familiar and now I understand the
"Church of Virus" concept better than whoever the "Guru" is. "

message #9:
Feb. 5 [Destroying CoV]
"The Church of Virus is an evil hoax that can be quickly destroyed as soon as
it's understood. "

So in a single week, you completely understood the CoV and set out
to destroy it. Who was attacking whom?

David McFadzean       
Memetic Engineer      
Church of Virus