Re: virus: Re: Memes and Jello

Lee Daniel Crocker (
Wed, 7 May 1997 16:23:43 -0700 (PDT)

> > How can one have a purpose other than one's purpose? I am using "will"
> > here in the sense of what one actually tries to accomplish, not in the
> > sense of whatever transient whims one might have.
> Understand. It was not the "will", but the need to subjugate the world
> with it, that I took issue with.

I didn't mean to leave that impression. I do not--I canot--"subjugate"
reality to anything. It just is. But in order to interact with it in
ways that accomplish my goals, I must have some idea of what it is like.
And I cannot choose not to interact with it, because it's still there.

> > If one has a goal, and wishes to accomplish it, one must commit to a
> > model of the world in order to achieve your goals within it.
> *Why?*
> That's not flip. Why do you need to commit to a model, one model, to
> achieve your goals? Are you talking about goals that can only be realized
> within the structure of one specific model? If so, then you're right. It
> is necessary to take on that model to meet those goals. But the model
> can be abandoned once the goals are met, or set aside in place of another

If I wish to feed myself, I must have an idea of which things in the
world are edible and which are not. If I wish to travel, I must have
some idea of the nature of space and time, etc. I'm speaking on a
very fundamental level here; something you probably take for granted,
but which some philosophers take so much for granted that they don't
see it, and come up with ideas contrary to it.

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