Re: virus: Re: heaven's gate kooks
Fri, 6 Jun 1997 20:12:57 -0400 (EDT)

> I don't know of
>any Christian who would say "Jesus came down here in the name of God".
>But many more would say that Jesus was an incarnation of God. You
>know..."what if God was one of us?"

God is one of us. We are all God.

>Anyway, the real reason I am responding to your post is to unravel your
>conviction that martyrdom (or rather, dying for your beliefs) is no
>longer in fashion.

It isn't anymore. At least not in America.

> Did you know that young Arab men living in Israel's
>Gaza Strip and the West Bank are guaranteed forty virgin wives and a
>palace in Heaven if they die as a martyr?

They're fanatics for the most part, so I don't count them. Dying for your
convictions is one thing, actively seeking to die a martyr (and take others
with you) is stupid and wasteful. That isn't dying for your convictions,
that's having no respect for life.

>Look at any one of the most recent headliner terrorists-- McVeigh, The
>Shining Path, all of whome show conviction to their cause.

Yeah, they also terrorize and savagely butcher others for their cause. I
don't mind dying for your convictions, but killing for them is an intirely
different animal. A horse of a different color you might say.

>I think what you are sensing is a lack of, for lack of a better word,
>"lack" in the lives of most North American Christians. Here,
>Christianity is an insitutionalised mainstream ideology.

I agree with you there, it's deffinately an institution.

> Any christian
>has a lot to lose if they try to usurp, supplant or work outside of the
>Law. (Waco).

They face being ostricized.

> In the days of saints and martyrs, the early christians
>gambled with state execution because they chose an ideology that united
>the slaves, women and disenfranchised of the affluent Roman Empire.

It wasn't an institution then, it was a ground swell.

> Like
>all underground movements-- the ones that foster martyrdom anyway-- thay
>invest a lot of energy into the idea that somehow your life will no
>longer be as miserable as it is. The prerequisite, of course, is a
>genuinely miserable life. And the conviction to make it better by taking
>absolute control over it (choosing to end it if it comes down to it).

It's foolish really. The only way your life gets better is if you make it

Strange Love,