Re: virus: Original Thoughts

Eric Boyd (
Sun, 23 Jun 1996 17:58:22 -0500

Chitren Nursinghdass wrote:
> >Original Thoughts. On a spur of the moment, no. We are all just
> >endlessly repeating what the Greeks said 2000+ years ago anyway, right?
> Tsss, the Greeks themselves said they were educated in Egypt, and those were
> also educated by other people from a far away land found at the south pole
> today.
> Pythagoras, Euclid, Aristotle, Plato ? Do you really think they invented
> what they said ? Thay don't claim so themselves. In fact Plato and
> Pythgagoras themselves spoke of their initiations in Egypt.

Well, OK. I don't know that what you claim is "true", but even if it
is, how does this absolve the issue? Where did the Egyptians get their
ideas? And where did they get their ideas?[1]

Essentially, I'm using the "argument from design" with a slight
variation here. Since ideas exist, and there was a time at which they
didn't (say before even our first remotest ancestors) the idea's /must/
have been formed as /orginals/ somewhere along the line. An unmoved
mover, in the form of a *new* meme.

What's really nice about this, looking back, is that as soon as one
admits that humans are capable of completely orginal idea's, it does not
seem so rough to admit that the universe is capable of bringing us into
existance. We are the /new/ meme's of the universe. If we can do it,
surely the "much more complex" universe is capable of it as well. An
interesting trap for a Christian who beleives in /free will/ and orginal

[1] Point in case: Where did Decartes get his ideas? born 1596 died
1650. "Invented" Cartesian geometry. An idea never before seen.