Re: virus: Re: Live Nude Girls

Eva-Lise Carlstrom (
Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:48:22 -0700 (PDT)

On Sat, 26 Jul 1997, Michelle Lee Gendvil wrote:

> Eva, you let them seduce you out of this wonderfully boring town?!
> Well, I am disappointed!

Yes, it's true, sorry to let you down. On the other hand, I do come back
periodically (so far I've returned for two SCA events and the Oregon
Country Fair, since moving up here in March). I'm not currently planning
another trip down, but will keep you in mind as yet another reason I
should, once I can afford it (I'm thinking September, given my current
debt level and income).

> You're right, _LiveNudeGirls_ is loaded with stuff to talk about. I don't
> exactly know the best place to start, but here it goes -
> I encouraged my roommate (who is five years younger than myself)
> to watch this movie with her friends and she reacted in a way which I
> found
> interesting. She thought it was funny. I thought it was disturbing.
> She laughed recalling the scene in which the woman and the
> Greenpeace supporter have sex. I looked at her questioningly.

I found the movie hilarious, and very disturbing. I think all of us
watching it Friday night responded fairly similarly, being simultaneously
amused and appalled by the women's choices and views (but I might be
overstating for others--correct me if I'm putting words in your mouths,
Kevin & Tim). That scene in particularly made me laugh, but in a very
uncomfortable fashion. The awkwardness was indeed horribly palpable. The
same is true for the scene with the neighbor couple that prompts the
telling of the Greenpeace story.

> The viewer of _LND_ is essentially an omniscient voyeur, observing
> the female "closet" moments and the "games we play". These acts are
> exaggerated in order
> to open the eyes of the "naive" female viewer, who are welcomed into
> feminist enlightement. The problem is that the naive females probably
> can't relate and won't understand. They may even laugh.

I find myself yet again back at the remark:
"If you don't laugh, you have missed the point. If you only laugh, you
have missed the point."