Re: virus: Consciousness Revisited (was: Un-natural

Brett Lane Robertson (
Fri, 22 Aug 1997 20:38:54 -0500

Prof Tim,

Defining consciousness and looking for it's equivalent in DNA would suit my
purposes best.


At 11:10 AM 8/22/97 -0700, you wrote:
>> How about consciousness. IMHO, intent arises out of consciousness.
>> Without consciousness there are mechanisms that function and outcomes, but
>> no "intent". Only form and function. (Prof.Tim)
>> > What is intent? Is it will to live, is it desire for desire,
>> > is it cooperative effort, is it a memetic pattern which "prefers" one
>> > adaptation over another? Or, do humans not have intent? (Brett)
>> What I was asking is at what level does "conscienciousness" (intent, choice,
>> complexity, etc.) arrise? If at the level of humanity, then why not at the
>> level of genetics? (Brett)
>Well, we can approach this two ways:
>1) We can /assume/ that consciousness is something humans have that genes
>don't and then go about looking at the differences between a human and a
>gene (brain size, meme use, etc).
>2) Or we can look at what "consciousness" is and try to see what would be
>necessary for it to exist in a given environment (a brain or a DNA
>Which route suits you? Or should we branch this thread into two and
>explore both simultaneuosly?
>-Prof. Tim

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