Re: virus: Re: The saga continues!

David McFadzean (
Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:28:53 -0600

At 11:21 PM 9/14/97 -0700, Tim Rhodes wrote:

>Why? If one assumes contradictions can exist, /why/ is reason pointless?
>(Ever heard of fuzzy logic?) Why doesn't one have to make sense? Why
>does anything go?

Sorry Prof., fuzzy logic isn't going to come to your defense here. It
also has an axiom of non-contradiction, namely A = (1 - ~A). If A is
70% true, then not-A has to be 30% true, they can't add up to more than 1.

>Not *internally*. And that's all an axiomatic system is ever good for,
>internal consistency. Nothing more. Whether that internal consistency
>jives with the rest of the universe is always (you guessed it) subjective.

Do you think it is subjective if someone's axiomatic is so broken it
gets them killed? (Examples abound)

It seems to me that you and Nate would actually agree on philosophical
matters if you could only agree on semantics (and it doesn't appear that
either of you are trying to define terms).

We all live in the same space-time universe right?
However no-one experiences the universe in exactly the same way, we
all have our unique perspectives which necessarily means we all
experience different subjective worlds.
Our senses don't show us raw reality, rather we experience the
interaction of our environment with our own hardware and software.
Seeing is not believing, seeing is (merely, often very good) evidence;
only a fool believes everything he sees, especially if he has a TV.

Can we agree on this much before progressing?

David McFadzean       
Memetic Engineer      
Church of Virus