Re: virus: Sham(an) again

David McFadzean (
Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:31:53 -0600

At 12:02 PM 9/16/97 -0700, Eva-Lise Carlstrom wrote:

>If I'm understanding you right, David, what you're saying is that by my
>defniition of magic, we should be able to apply scientific methods to
>understanding a magical action, although this would not be the same thing
>as performing the magical action. If this is in fact your claim, I agree.

Right on.

>That depends on the question. If the question is "Are the blue rocks all
>salty?", then by sucking them you're testing a hypothesis. That's a
>scientific experiment. If, however, the question is "What do all these
>things taste like, anyway?", it's simply sampling, not testing any
>particular hypothesis.

Maybe I'm being stubborn again, but I don't understand how exploring
the world can be considered the reverse of science. (Has anyone found
the reference in the Principia Cybernetica web?)

David McFadzean       
Memetic Engineer      
Church of Virus