Re: virus: Re: Social Metaphysics

David McFadzean (
Sat, 20 Sep 1997 11:25:48 -0600

At 10:41 PM 9/19/97 -0400, D.H.Rosdeitcher wrote:

>This situation has to do with persuasion, as well. Neo-Tech persuades
>people to use their paradigm instead of other mystical paradigms. Some of
>their arguments are circular, yet some are reasonable. It's a "trojan
>horse" effect, in which crap gets mixed in with some good information. In
>this case, does Neo-Tech operate fraudulently, even if, overall, their
>products might be a value to people, sort of like the way methodone is a
>value to heroin addicts? And, if the writers at Neo-Tech didn't understand

Yes, it is still fraud. Maybe we just need a better term without the
connotations of illegality. When reason is out of the question I usually
advocate fraud over force. I also think force is sometimes necessary.

>that there's a problem with circular statements, would that change
>anything? (It seems possible to advocate bad information honestly while
>overlooking flaws in it.)

I'll answer with a question: is it still lying if I believe I'm telling
the truth?

David McFadzean       
Memetic Engineer      
Church of Virus