RE: virus: Meme, the Underlying Cause

Robin Faichney (
Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:27:58 +0100

> From: Tadeusz Niwinski[]
> Robin wrote:
> >I'll respond now, anyway. You are so wrong!!!! :-)
> >
> >But where to start explaining? Well, one thing: you seem to
> >identify memes with thoughts. But if you think about it, that
> >obviously won't fly (or even hold water). Just go back to
> >Dawkins' original list of examples: pop tunes, clothing
> >fashions, etc. These are not thoughts. Or, for that matter,
> >go to any of the various definitions of memes... you can do
> >that for yourself.
> Your thoughts controled me as much as stopping me from having lunch
> when I
> was really hungry.
My thoughts, or your desire to correct them? Isn't the
latter at least a more *immediate* cause?

> Now they are trying to give me a homework assignment.
I'm not sure whether you are joking or not. Do you know
whether you are joking, Tad?

> [...]>Genetic information is no more important
> >than life, and genes are no more important than their
> >environment. Evolution has no particular "driving
> >force". Behaviour has no single cause. My thoughts
> >do not control your behaviour (gawd forbid!),
> You are so right!
> How come I write this to you?
Surely you are better placed than anyone else to
answer that. Some causes are closer than others.