RE: virus: Re: Social Metaphysics

David McFadzean (
Thu, 02 Oct 1997 14:13:37 -0600

At 11:13 AM 10/2/97 -0700, Tim Rhodes wrote:

>It seems very important to you, David, to not have faith. But you make the

That is correct. I think that idea that "faith is good" is the most
pernicious myth in western civilization. That is why I created the
CoV, to combat the myth. Of course the truth of my assertion depends
on the definition of faith I have posted practically every week for
a year now.

>same mistake as Christians who look for archaeological evidence to back up
>the stories in the Bible. All the evidence in the world for the David and
>Goliath story being true does not imply Gods hand at work in guiding to
>pebble. And all the evidence you have for your *faith* does not make it
>any less of a faith.

And science is just another religion, right?

>And just because your faith can adapt over time does not make it any less
>of a faith. You obviously have never spent years around any devote
>/anything/ if you think their faith doesn't adapt to fit the physical
>reality of the times. Look at the history of the church, David. It
>changes course as often as science does (although admittedly about 50-75
>behind science these days).

When has the church ever lost faith in a deity?

>Do *you* need a new, more palatable word for "faith based on evidence"?
>(I know some Christians who could use the word too, once you coin it!)

Not all beliefs are based on faith. If they were, then faith becomes
a meaningless word.

David McFadzean       
Memetic Engineer      
Church of Virus