Re: virus: Meme, the Underlying Cause

Brett Lane Robertson (
Tue, 07 Oct 1997 19:51:39 -0500

At 12:01 PM 10/7/97 -0700, you wrote:
>On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Brett Lane Robertson wrote:
B>> I would say that you *do*...that my own standard is IQ
>> (loosely interpreted to mean lack of defense mechanisms against an inate
>> ability to form good conclusions). ..and therefore that you rank high on the
>> list of intellligence...but that the point where insult occurs depends on
>> the dynamics of the thread being discussed (and that an insult is not an
>> insult unless someone takes offense).
T>I disagree. My good points have less to do with IQ than with patience and
>an irrational beleif that growth can stem from many sources. That and the
>fact that I don't minnd suffering abuse, if it helps someone else. A
>distictly Shamanic attitude that has given me logically verified results.
>But that does not justify YOUR acts of abuse.
>-Prof. Tim


Abusing truth through patience and irrational beliefs should not lead one to
"suffering abuse" but instead to finding favor with others who abuse. On
the other hand, going the extra distance to see that defensiveness is
pointed out for what it is--wrong thinking--often leaves those who live by
the code of abuse and suffering abuse to see abuse where only good intent

I will not accept Prof. Tim's labeling my attempts to further a cause
(though perhaps at the discomfort of those who cannot or will not go that
extra step) as abuse. On the other hand, I do think that he has some good
points about including patience and acceptance of various "sources" in an
attempt to foster intelligence...only please stop ABUSING me by calling my
integrity into question in your attempt to make your points (this last thing
said in humor and with the added hope that someone will see how anyone who
attempts to make a point may be misconstrued as making that point at the
expense of what someone else believes).


Rabble Sonnet Retort
Numeric stability is probably not all that important when
you're guessing.