Re: virus:Logic

Brett Lane Robertson (
Thu, 09 Oct 1997 20:34:26 -0500

b) Sodom's Dictionary defines insight as: A not-absolute conclusion
reached by reflecting upon experiences, experimentation, or information.
Thoughts, based on observation, strung together to reach a theory,
without the full strength of a theory, probably including jumps in logic
and therefore not entirely accurate.

When discussing religios insights, I men insights into the natural
world, not supernatural world. Human behaviour being a good example. (Sodom)


So are you asking for "A not-absolute conclusion reached by reflecting upon
experiences, experimentaion, or information" which applies to "the natural
world, not supernatural"...but which originates from a "divine source" with
the further criteria that it should not have multiple interpretations or be
a hallucination...?

The first problem I see with this request is that if it originates from a
"divine source" then must it be "supernatural"?
Next, if it is religious and has *multiple interpretations* it would not
seem too different from that "not-absolute" conclusion you require (But you
seem to make a distinction between the first and the the
difference here due to the fact that it is presented as religious, or is it
that your definition of "conclusion" is more specific than "interpretation"?)

Next, can something gained from experiences, experimentaion, and information
ALSO be "divine"?


Is religion not natural? Is religious experience and information not the
source for religious insights? Are religious insights (based on a "natural"
religion with experience and information) different from any other "insight"
the way you use the term?

Is a statement like "God is Love" not a religious insight based on religious
experience and religious information? It's proof will be in the form of
more religious information and experience...not in the form of science-fact;
but can it be accepted as an insight, or even a theory, and experimented on
using religious criteria (not scientific criteria)?

What are you really asking for here? Are you saying can we put god in a
maze and run timed tests to see if he learns? Would you use the same tests
to test human behavior as you would animal behavior? Couldn't you design
tests to determine religious phenomenon based on what they perport to measure?


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