Re: virus: what is a valid philosophy?

Brett Lane Robertson (unameit@tctc.com)
Sat, 11 Oct 1997 13:19:09 -0500


I believe nothing in my natural state; Therefor I do not have dissonant
beliefs unless called upon to do so by an external factor, or for fun
and exploration. When I use the word belief, it is for lack of another
word that means something like "seems to me at this moment in time". In
terms I am familiar with, I call this self programming, the ability to
change your mindset to fit a particualr circumstance or goal. I think
this is close to what you mean by level 3.

Sodom

What you are describing I call a "sell-out" to social illusion. 'I' believe
"something" in my natural state...from which evolves consciousness (I think
therefore I am). Therefore, I--also--do not have dissonant beliefs unless
called upon by an external factor (which is why I am a hermetic..."true" as
long as hermetically sealed from outside tampering). Beginning with these
ideas, I call "being called upon to do so by an external factor"
*programming*. Avoiding programming is what I call a level 1. Changing
your level 1 "to fit a particular [dissonant] circumstance or goal",
selling-out, is ALSO what I call a level 3--or more appropriately, forcing
others to change their level 1 understanding so as to sell-out to me thereby
allowing me to maintain a level one truth in a dichotomous mind-set (or a
level 3 can sell out his level one--soul--and then compete to delude other
level ones by not maintaining soulful consistency, "flipping", in this way
the level 3 can use the level one's consistency while maintaining a
"sell-out" mentality). Avoiding this flipping (which you seem to imply
above) without using a level one ("believing nothing in your natural state")
denotes a level 2...or dichotomous mindset. Using this level two to
"self-program" based on another person's consistency is a level one if you
confirm yourself this way and a level 3 if you lose yourself and destroy
someone else to find yourself again at the loss of both your level
ones...that is with the intent of maintaining a level 2 dichotomous
(competetive) mindset.

Brett

At 08:08 AM 10/11/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Tadeusz Niwinski wrote:
>>
>> Sodom wrote:
>> >Nathaniel Hall wrote:
>> >> From what I've been told a level 3 mind is a fancy way of saying one
has a
>> >> good grasp of philosophy. Am I wrong? What is the standard definition" ?
>> >> The Nateman
>>
>> >just to add, if it is not 100% true then it must be partially false
>> >falls into the Aristotle trap of yes/no true/false. It could just be 90%
>> >true and 10% incomplete.
>>
>> OK, here is Richard's most brilliant definition of Level-3 again:
>>
>> "Level 3 is characterized by the ability to flex your meme-space on the
>> fly; to use multiple models depending upon your purpose and priorities.
>> It's possible to gain an intellectual understanding of what this means
>> from Level 2, but probably not possible to really feel the impact of the
>> difference in life experience. The Level-3 mind has a great capacity to
>> hold dissonant, contradictory beliefs. (Einstein was said to have this
>> ability.)"
>>
>> Regards, Tadeusz (Tad) Niwinski from planet TeTa
>> tad@teta.ai http://www.teta.ai (604) 985-4159
>
>I definately see the dilema here. let me make a brief description of my
>inner workings.
>I believe nothing in my natural state; Therefor I do not have dissonant
>beliefs unless called upon to do so by an external factor, or for fun
>and exploration. When I use the word belief, it is for lack of another
>word that means something like "seems to me at this moment in time". In
>terms I am familiar with, I call this self programming, the ability to
>change your mindset to fit a particualr circumstance or goal. I think
>this is close to what you mean by level 3.
>
>Sodom
>I THOUGHT I SAW THE LIGHT, WELL MAYBE
>

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