Re: virus: MS Flip Software Price

Tadeusz Niwinski (
Thu, 16 Oct 1997 16:14:06 -0700

Tim wrote:
>Are emotions parational? If so, why the endless historic emotions/logic

Good point. Logic is a higher level way of using Earth resources. The
emotional, spontaneous way of living does not require logic, it's built in
be evolution AND it appears parational. This is how the animal kingdom was

Then a human comes in who is still an animal, but an animal with a 'logic'
option. It's not easy to supersede emotions which were good at the animal
level. Kind of like FFFF -> RRR transition (I don't want to use L1 -> L2 as
it has been abused so much on this list). And an
"endless historic emotions/logic duality" kicks in. Makes sense to me.

Superseding animal-like behaviour for logical one brings long-term gains as
opposed to short term gains. We can understand the long term consequences
and still *feel* an urge to follow the short-term gain mechanism built in be
evolution. We have a choice.

My backyard goes directly into a large area of woods (we even had a bear eat
cherries from our cherry tree). Every year when I spray a chemical to get
rid of carpenter ants who love to nest in our house I think of the killing I
am doing. If the ants were reasoning creatures and we could communicate, I
would just told them, "you are welcome to make your nests *outside* of my
property" or something like that. Too bad I have the logic option and they

As Nateman said, I would also consider to re-negotiate anything with
animals, as long as they were capable of reasoning. Negotiating with humans
is similar. Negotiation is a logical process. If I find a person who
claims that logic is not useful, I know this person is simply trying to use
me, that this person will soon lie and cheat. As a human this person has
the logic option build in, but pretends she can't use it. I have a choice of
not negotiating until this person is willing to go by logic. If there is no
logic, emotions only can rule. And this is what has been happening in history.

Regards, Tadeusz (Tad) Niwinski from planet TeTa (604) 985-4159