Re: virus: Free thought and control

Sodom (
Fri, 17 Oct 1997 22:46:17 -0400

chardin wrote:
> > Subject: Re: virus: Free thought and control
> > Date: Fri, 17 Oct 97 15:59:02 -0400
> > From: "Wade T.Smith" <>
> > To: <>
> > Reply-to:
> > >However, there are very few facts as to the changing of man from
> > >one species to another, i.e., a primate to human. Scientists
> > >produce such things as Lucy as proof. I'm just saying their proof
> > >ought to be more scientific--less tampered with. It is not a FACT
> > >that man came from apes. It is speculation
> >
> > Look- this should probably go to alt.creation or something, but you
> > are so totally off-base with most of this that the button has been
> > pushed.
> >
> > Humans _are_ primates, for crissakes.
> For Christ's sake? -- Maybe you ought to call on someone who knows you!
> Perhaps that is rude, but you sit there all day saying man is some
> sort of creature that he now is not and tell me I talk hopeless
> twaddle? Well, what is he? Are you still looking for the "missing
> link" or am I just too old to remember that stuff and it doesn't fit
> any more?. Does the "missing link" embarass you now--it ought to.
> I took an anthropology course and listened to all that
> crap-- you say one thing one day--Piltdown man indeed! What about
> your Lucy--I didn't see you defending her? What the hell is she?
> What ARE you and your ilk claiming for her? You are probably
> right--this ought to go to alt.creation becuase YOU can't state your
> own case and you get all upset if you get some questions -well, my God
> I'm at HARVARD--intellecutally superior in every way--you know that place that USED TO BE A CHRISTIAN
> SCHOOL before intellectutal infidels who are too smart for their own
> good took over. You like preaching to the choir don't you?
> Your right, it is difficult to launch a case against a set of claims
> that change daily.
> I feel better now.
> >
> > Evolution would never say, and no biologist has ever said, that man
> > came from apes.
> Would anyone else on the list like to comment on what biologists do
> say? I would be interested to know. I have it on good authority
> now that they never have said we come from apes. Of course, I have heard a few say that they
> are our cousins. Did I not read posting after posting on this list
> this week with discussions about how we evolved from apes? Maybe you
> need to teach some of the rest of the folk about evolution because
> they have a distorted idea about it too. Maybe they will learn
> faster.
> > Your knowledge of both science, scientists, evolution, and theories
> > involving all three is in error.
> Opinions. No facts.
> > I have spent too much time with creationists and their hopeless
> > twaddle to sit down with you and show you where you have been
> > misled, but you have been. I am willing to think you can get back
> > onto a real course.
> >
> Mighty big of you. Maybe you can get back on a real course, too.
> > ********************************
> > Wade T. Smith
> >
> >
> >
> > ********************************
> >
> >
We all agree this debate is getting old, so here is my last (for the
next day or two) comment about it. If we could seperate ourselves from
humanity, say if we were aliens, and came to earth. After looking at the
all five of us - Orangatan, Chimpanzee, Gorilla, Bonobo and Human, we
would group them as offshoots of the same species. In every way that
matters we look, act, are genetically almost identicle,(closer to
Chimps, than Chimps are to Gorillas), mate, group, sleep and use tools
the same. Our brain is the only significant difference, and it's not
that much better. please put fear (an animalistic tendancy) away and
look at the evidence.