Re: virus: God's Invisible Hand

Marie Foster (
Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:42:32 -0700

Sodom wrote:
> Tim Rhodes wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, chardin wrote:
> >
> > > Prof. Tim wrote:
> > > > If the prophecies were all wrong, and the future was not "revealed"
> > > > in the bible, and there was not Christ (this is hypothetical,
> > > > remember), would you still be a Christian? Why or why not?
> >
> > > I could not possibly be a Christian as you hypothesize.
> >
> > Too bad. Your reasons for believing are the same as the ones you say are
> > the errors of science. You believe as a security blanket rather than
> > because it is the "right" way to live your life. That is sad. There is
> > no differnece between you and the scientists you deride. You just have
> > differnt colored blankets to hold as you suck your thumb in the darkness.
> >
> > Very sad indeed.
> >
> > -Prof. Tim
> Geez Tim, you are on a warpath today. I do agree however with my
> origianl comment a week and a half ago. Faith is based on fear of the
> unknown. Whether it is deliberate or not. I would probably make a good
> Christian because I do think many of the things Christ is supposed to
> have said are good. Love, compassion, affection, forgivness - all of
> these are values I hold dear. But I like them because I see the benefits
> they bring and the emotional response my mind rewards me with, not
> because someone told me to. If it weren't for the divine part, if Jesus
> were just a philosopher like Socrates, then I would probably convert.
> Sodom

Why does faith = fear of the unknown grate on me so much!!! I think I
will look it up in the Oxford English version when I am at the library.
I have to pick up that book on consciousness and request Richard's book.

Sodom, this is not your problem, it is mine. I find faith a perfectly
good word. Is it possible for us to agree that fear of the unknown =
fear of the unknown (which I agree is not somehthing to be desired while
fear is needed as long as there are nuts out there :0)...) and faith =

I do not know if this will help, but it might cut down on the number of
posts I am feeling compelled to make that do not seem to further the
quest for the meme.