Re: virus: The other

William Roh (
Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:47:29 -0800

Brett Lane Robertson wrote:
> Also, i see no reason to assume, or even suggest that there is a 1 - 1
> correlation between concepts of thought and concepts in physics, i
> doubt, other than becasue you like it, there is any connection. (William)
> List,
> There is. That is what "metaphysics" is. Why wouldn't there be? Do you
> propose some lawless state (free choice)? What do you propose governs
> thought if not physics?
> Brett
> Returning,
> rBERTS%n
> Spouse, n.:
> Someone who'll stand by you through all the trouble you
> wouldn't have had if you'd stayed single.

David Talbot wrote a book called "The Holographic Universe". the premise
was the universe is only a holographic projection (us included). He
started this premise by suggesting that consciousness was also a
holographic projecion of the mind. I think some of us see consciousness
as software running on hardware (the brain). The physical aspects of the
mind are subject to the physical descriptions that physics has used,
thus far. The software aspect however, is probably a lot more than just
the mass of neurons that it runs on. Consciousness is a good example of
something that is more than the sum of it's parts. I don't think any of
us can explain, in an accurate and objective manner, where a "new' idea
comes from. Because of this lack of information, to make an assumption
that concepts of thought can be mapped to descriptions in physics is a
huge leap without support. So far, we can find where things are
happening in the mind, and the chemicals that are responsible for
certain mental processes, but we cannot yet tell where the line between
electro-chemical action, and consciousness is drawn. Lack of evidence
means no theory. Now, if you want to say that "maybe" it works this way,
and can think of a way to test this idea, I'm all for that, but i feel
is is premature to go any further than "maybe". If we permit
unsupportable claims to reach the point of truth, than I am guilty of my
own sin of avoiding self-deception.