Re: virus: The Shape of Memes to Come

David McFadzean (
Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:45:49 -0700

At 12:15 PM 11/22/97 -0800, Tim Rhodes wrote:

>What I'm thinking here is that that ever elusive meme we keep chasing not
>only has components that interact directly in a causal way with other
>memes structures, including <self>, but also a sort of
>cloud/waveform/membrane around it that interacts in a more indirect way.
>Like the way mood effects brain chemistry and therefore the manner in
>which information is processed. Likewise for each meme there is the more
>rational Tab A/Slot B level of interaction with other memes and the more
>instinctual/emotional/relativistic Spices-in-the-Soup interaction as well.
>As I said, I'm having a hard time coming up with a linguistic expression of
>what I'm envisioning, but I'll work on it.

If I'm understanding you correctly it may be useful to cast your ideas
in terms of a complex dynamical systems vocabulary. For instance, if the
interaction of memes is modeled as a connectionist network, then the difference
between the Tab/Slot interaction and Spices-in-the-Soup interaction is
one of connectivity: direct and large influence versus indirect and
relatively diluted influence.

David McFadzean       
Memetic Engineer      
Church of Virus