Re: virus: Re: Truth

Keith Elis (hagbard@ix.netcom.com)
Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:18:54 -0500


nobody wrote:
>
> Keith Elis wrote:
>
> > 'Quart' must then be defined using some other metric. This other metric
> > must then be defined. We go on like this, never actually finding out
> > what exactly a gallon is except as it relates to these other things.
> > Where does the floor end and my desk begin? If you had no definition for
> > floor, and no definition for desk, they would be one.
>
> Sense-data provides for perceptions. But perceptions are all we know of
> sense-data. We can never know the actual nature of sense-data, so the
> best we can come up with is a 'system of perceptial truth'.
>

Interestingly, one could argue that pure logical thought is itself a
perceptual framework. That is, one senses truth/reality by way of formal
rules. If a concept does not fit the rules (i.e., non-contradiction)
then we call it a false concept. False concepts are 'filtered' out of
our experience by way of logic. This is similar to the idea that the
human eye 'filters' out sounds (i.e., it does not sense them). I deaf
person has eyes, but all sound is filtered out, and thus a deaf person
cannot process reality in the same manner as a hearing individual.

This of course means that we do not 'see' all that we can see. We do not
sense radio wavelengths unless we build devices that turn these
wavelengths into hearable sound or visible light. This, I think, gels
nicely with your concept of 'perceptual truth.' That is, a local reality
is necessarily incomplete.

I suppose this might be extended to include every thought that is
possible. One cannot think a thought that is impossible to think. Can we
think all possible thoughts? Can we think a thought that our hard-wiring
does not allow for? Does our hard-wiring allow us to think any thought
at all? I'm assuming that our hard-wiring constrains us in some way, an
assumption I ... ahem ... truthfully have no good reason to make.

> I had more to say, but lost my train of thought. Bugger..

Is this evidence of constrained thought? ;-)

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