Re: virus: Re: engagements

Bob Hartwig (hartwig@ais.net)
Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:30:01 -0500


Damn straight, Sodom. Well put.

At 01:55 PM 4/27/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Real nice Tim, only its BS!!
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>By using your definition of we can say that people who were anti nazi were
just
>the same as the nazi's. Its all just a misunderstanding, no-one in Germany
>actually knew they were supporting genocide. In fact, I suppose fighting any
>real oppression by opposing the oppression is just prejiduce! why dont we all
>just lie down like sheep so that we dont get viewed as prejiduce?
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>No thanks. I dont take my like or dislike of a religion to a personal
level - I
>dont dislike or like someone more due the their religious beliefs,
regardless of
>what they are, my battle is over issues. There are cases, mostly in eduaction
>and child rearing, where I feel that the religiously inclined are be
oppressed,
>and I not more support what is happening in these cases, than I do the
reverse.
>If this country was one that was Christian by law, than I would have to live
>with what exists; however, I hold the view that "freedom of religion" also
means
>"freedom from religion". That is what I work towards.
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>Tim Rhodes wrote:
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>> Sodom writes:
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>> >For the purpose of argument, Fallawake, suppose I was gay. In this society
>> I
>> >would be seriously oppressed - I could be fired for being gay, i cant
marry
>> the
>> >person I love, I cant file for a joint tax return, I cant get health
>> indsurance
>> >for my mate etc... Since it is Christianity and the religious right that
>> voted
>> >for my oppression, i can say that they are harming me. Voting along
>> religios
>> >beliefs has more negatives than positives any day and is harming me. So if
>> I try
>> >to fight religion, because of its effects, i am going to be fighting those
>> who
>> >claim not to hurt anyone with their beliefs when just the opposite is
true.
>>
>> Fighting prejudice with prejudice seems like a losing proposition. Both
>> your attitudes and the Christian Right's are based on inaccurate
>> generalizations. Just because you have a comfortable rationalization for
>> your prejudice, makes it none the less ugly--perhaps it even makes it
>> moreso.
>>
>> -Prof. Tim
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