>In a message dated 98-06-12 10:58:26 EDT, you write:
>>>> Therefore, cognitive abilities like spatial and verbal ones (without
any
> > doubt also racial-determined) should imply nation-specific religion
(which
> > I'll call 'Level 1 religion'). <<<
>Without any doubt??
>
>I might be susceptible to believing that this might be culturally
determined,
>but race is a genetic concept, and a false one as well I think.
Don't quit follow. Do you mean that there are no genetical differences
between Japanese and Pole? It is not a _false_ concept. I really don't know
why is this matter so emotional.
>I understand that there are some very recent genetic studies that have
>compared the genetic proximities of humans around the globe. The results
of
>them are nothing like traditional racial distinctions, and I haven't heard
any
>traditional racists embracing them.
They are not very recent. Observation of mongoloid-caucasian differences
date about beginning of this century. Please read an article in May's
"Scientific American" - "The genetics of Cognitive Abilities and
Disabilities". It is not directly about races but rather heritability of
abilities.
> I suspect it may be because these results
>and distinctions do not support their cultural agendas.
Do you really think that someone cares about rascist freelings? Maybe there
is so in America, but in my country we have no other races than white
practically. And I do find it extremely difficult to think like a rascist,
since I consider everybody human. If someone supports rascism using
para-scientific arguments in Poland, he qualifies to psychiatrical treating.
>On the other hand, I do think we overlook potentially valuable
understandings
>by not exploring genetic elements of intelligence. Certainly these
>characteristics are differentially spread throughout the population. Not
all
>individuals could be similarly endowed and in the same way.
I agree. It is so stupid to ingnore every single genetic research of
intelligence.
>Superorganisms on the level of nations
>that you describe, are based on culture not genes.
I am not speaking about very close realtions. I think about subltle
similiarities. These one which cause Mongoloids (and Jews) to achieve about
15 IQ pt. (one SD!) higher scores. If all Asians have skew [??] eyes it
means that they something common in terms of genetics . So don't say they do
not.
> For the superorganism
>genetics is involved only in the most superficial, obvious, and unimportant
>manners which have little or nothing to do with mental abilities (like skin
>color, hair texture, and the like), and often have little to due with
actual
>genetic proximity.
And please tell me, how do you know that they don't have anything to do with
mental abilities? Such statement is nothing than a wish since such complex
things (like cognitive proprties) just have to be determined by multiple
genes, not talking about allels.
Let me reverse the question: How did it happened that Asians do not create
Gods, but some abstracts? And how is it possible that Hindi [?] did created
theistical religion living in Asia, if you want to embrace cultural aspect.
We, Europeans (and white Americans as well) did came from India (generaly).
We believe in theistic religions. Why?
Have you read Nietzsche? He did noticed that xtianity is not European
religion. It has evolved into European-specic religion by adding &
multilpicating theistic beings capable to be worshiped like Mariah. And who
do you think are all saints? Note also that Reformation which has rejected
those Catholical additions, was the act of rational purification[?] not
memetic evolution.
One more thing. I am not stuborn and rascist. I even do not want to force
stricte racial concept. I just suspect (not only suspect) that there are
complexes of genes that determine more abstract way of thinging, which of
course do vary in such population according to Gaussian curve.
Note that I am pro-asian[?]. In fact I admire Asians (especially women :-)
>I am still interested to hear about those L2-4 religions and how they are
>distinguished.
And you will hear soon.
Regards
-- Michal Kulczycki University of Wroclaw, Psychology Dept. NOWY E-mail: ronan@dawid.uni.wroc.pl ICQ #: 8954988Ps. Forgive delay