Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?

Johnny Rea (matziq@airmail.net)
Mon, 15 Jun 1998 15:01:12 -0500


As you know, everyone is an individual and regardless of religion are
capable
of being 'abusive'. I wouldn't doubt it if you knew many Mormon men who
were
abusive...but I seriously doubt you didn't know just as many non-Mormons who
were just as abusive. So, lets not just assume that all Mormon men are
abusive.
I am not nor is any active member I know. I do know that my sister's
ex-husband
is an ex-communicated Mormon who was HIGHLY abusive.

JOSEPH Smith (note: he went by Joseph his entire life...not Joe) never
acknowledged his writings were fancy and that quote by Brigham Young is
absolutely false. Can you tell me where you got this information?

As far as the population issue, Mormons believe that all God's children must
leave his presence, go to Earth and receive a body, live a full life and
strive
to be Christ-like in every way, die and be resurrected.
We believe that we should have as many children as we can support (notice
the keyword 'SUPPORT') thereby giving bodies to as many spirit children
as possible. The problems with overpopulation are largely because of
third world countries and families there having many many more children
than they can 'support'...i.e. food, clothing, shelter, etc. If a husband
and wife
can support 11 children than so be it....
And since the Mormon church has its own welfare system, no members of the
church ever need to rely on government assistance.

The kindness issue you touched on concerning your childhood friends and
neighbors is an important one. The morals and values that the Mormon
church teaches its members is what makes the church so attractive to many
people today. For example, the FBI and CIA actively recruit return Mormon
missionaries at BYU for service because of their well known high values and
morals.

Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: sodom <Sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
Date: Monday, June 15, 1998 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?

I have read pieces of the Book of Mormon, and I own a copy so I should read
the
whole thing. I was also raised with Mormons. (my best friends were Mormon,
and
most of my street growing up). My impressions of the Mormon people, as a
culture, is pretty good. They seem to be quite kind, caring and
compassionate
people. Now for the bad, They were all touched by some lunacy I still cannot
fathom. In all cases I know of, the father would be what I consider
"abusive".
Not super abusive, but enough to make me uncomfortable. They were also
strict
about marriage, missions, and social behaviour. It seems that the biggest
problem I have with the Mormon beliefs, is that that are very obviously
false.
The writer himself, Joe Smith I think his name is, acknowledged that his
writings were fancy, and Brigham Young was known for saying, and I am
paraphrasing, "Human's were put by aliens to colonize and populate the
Earth".
My last argument with the Mormons is their irresponsible outlook on
population.
They seem to have VERY high birthrates. In my view, irresponsible
reproduction
for any reason is a major *sin*.

Sodom
Bill Roh

Johnny Rea wrote:

> What does everyone thing of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day
Saints?
> Has anyone read The Book of Mormon?
>
> Thanks,
> John Rea