Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?

Johnny Rea (matziq@airmail.net)
Tue, 16 Jun 1998 11:41:23 -0500


If they had a jury trial to determine the existance of God and could use
as many witnesses (eye and character, etc.) to prove it and could use a
pool of all witnesses (past and present), what do you think the outcome
would be?
Do you believe the atom exists? Have you ever seen one?

-----Original Message-----
From: sodom <Sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?

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>
>Johnny Rea wrote:
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joe E. Dees <jdees0@students.uwf.edu>
>> To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 12:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: Re[2]: virus: Virus: Opinions?
>>
>> >Crazy?
>> >Of course they can be; How many Nazis were there? How many Maoists?
>> >The "forty million flies can't be wrong" reverse ad hominum defense
>> >holds no logical water. There's a lot of New Age bizarrity in
>> >Mormon metaphysics, and the most bizarre thing is that otherwise
>> >intelligent people yoke their self-esteem wagon tongues so zealously
>> >to the star of such an absurd doctrine.
>> >
>>
>> What, exactly, is so absurd about the Mormon doctrine of which you speak?
>> Is it so absurd that Mormons believe in treating their fellow man with
>> respect,
>> being honorable, good, kind, helpful to their fellow man (i.e. following
the
>> teachings
>> of Christ)? Is it so absurd that Joseph Smith was visited by God? If you
>> deny
>> the existance of God then that is one thing...but if you believe there is
a
>> God then
>> why is it so absurd that he visited one of his earthly children?
>
> Only one line makes sense here, and you said it "If you deny
>the existance of God then that is one thing." Thats exactly it. We do deny
that
>existence, but, if there were evidence to support it, we would consider it.
None
>of the doctrines you mention point to a God, and the God that you see from
your
>teachings of Christ acts very differently that the God of more ancient
doctrine.
>Treating your fellow man well is rarely espoused by Christ. I am willing to
bet
>good money that for every nice thing Christ was supposed to say in the new
>Testament, there was at least one mean thing about suffering or torment.
Yes, it
>is absurd that Joseph Smith was visited by God, Im not saying he did not
see
>"God", But since I have done that, and as far as I could tell at the time
it
>seem real, for a while, I am saying that if indeed he saw "god" it was a
>hallucination. My next guess is that he made it up for money, or power, or
fear,
>or women.
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>Sodom
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