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Johnny Rea wrote:
> If they had a jury trial to determine the existance of God and could use
> as many witnesses (eye and character, etc.) to prove it and could use a
> pool of all witnesses (past and present), what do you think the outcome
> would be?
> Do you believe the atom exists? Have you ever seen one?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sodom <Sodom@ma.ultranet.com>
> To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 10:49 AM
> Subject: Re: virus: Virus: Opinions?
>
> >
> >
> >Johnny Rea wrote:
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Joe E. Dees <jdees0@students.uwf.edu>
> >> To: virus@lucifer.com <virus@lucifer.com>
> >> Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 12:38 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Re[2]: virus: Virus: Opinions?
> >>
> >> >Crazy?
> >> >Of course they can be; How many Nazis were there? How many Maoists?
> >> >The "forty million flies can't be wrong" reverse ad hominum defense
> >> >holds no logical water. There's a lot of New Age bizarrity in
> >> >Mormon metaphysics, and the most bizarre thing is that otherwise
> >> >intelligent people yoke their self-esteem wagon tongues so zealously
> >> >to the star of such an absurd doctrine.
> >> >
> >>
> >> What, exactly, is so absurd about the Mormon doctrine of which you speak?
> >> Is it so absurd that Mormons believe in treating their fellow man with
> >> respect,
> >> being honorable, good, kind, helpful to their fellow man (i.e. following
> the
> >> teachings
> >> of Christ)? Is it so absurd that Joseph Smith was visited by God? If you
> >> deny
> >> the existance of God then that is one thing...but if you believe there is
> a
> >> God then
> >> why is it so absurd that he visited one of his earthly children?
> >
> > Only one line makes sense here, and you said it "If you deny
> >the existance of God then that is one thing." Thats exactly it. We do deny
> that
> >existence, but, if there were evidence to support it, we would consider it.
> None
> >of the doctrines you mention point to a God, and the God that you see from
> your
> >teachings of Christ acts very differently that the God of more ancient
> doctrine.
> >Treating your fellow man well is rarely espoused by Christ. I am willing to
> bet
> >good money that for every nice thing Christ was supposed to say in the new
> >Testament, there was at least one mean thing about suffering or torment.
> Yes, it
> >is absurd that Joseph Smith was visited by God, Im not saying he did not
> see
> >"God", But since I have done that, and as far as I could tell at the time
> it
> >seem real, for a while, I am saying that if indeed he saw "god" it was a
> >hallucination. My next guess is that he made it up for money, or power, or
> fear,
> >or women.
> >
> >Sodom
> >
> >