Re: virus: Hell and Jesus

sodom (Sodom@ma.ultranet.com)
Tue, 16 Jun 1998 17:57:19 -0400


I have that speech and the book "On God and Religion". It is excellent. If
anyone needs to be bashed with maddeningly brilliant logic, Russel is a great
start!

Sodom

Eric Boyd wrote:

> Hi,
>
> loukas // crowther <loukas@united-trackers.org> writes:
> > on a slightly unrelated note, the now traditional concept of hell
> > as a place of eternal damnation, pain, suffering, fire, brimstone,
> > blah blah blah.. is never actually mentioned in the bible as that.
>
> This is a complete lie. I believe it's source is the "liberal" protestant
> church's of our day -- who don't like the "hell fire and damnation" of the
> southern baptists...
>
> Once, about 6 months ago, I corrected this same mistake on Virus by citing
> a dozen or so verses where Jesus gives the standard hell fire and damnation
> speech. Am I going to bother this time?
>
> Nah.
>
> Just go read the gospels yourself.
>
> Oh well, just one example: one of Jesus's favorite lines is "where there is
> weeping and gnashing of teeth". It occurs so often, in fact, that Russell
> comments:
>
> "He goes on about the wailing and gnashing of teeth. It comes in one
> verse after another, and it is quite manifest to the reader that there
> is a certain pleasure in contemplating the wailing and gnashing of
> teeth, or else it would not occur so often."
> -- Bertrand Russell, _Why I Am Not a Christian_
>
> (note that I use weeping, from the NIV, while Russell uses wailing, from
> the KJV)
>
> For best effect, go read The Parable of the Weeds, Matt 13:24-30, 13:36-43
>
> ERiC