> >I think you will find that as far as churches go, we are pretty lax in
> most
> >respects, but we all seem to make at least one demand - you need to be
> rational
>
> whats makes a person irrational? if i believe in god am i irrational?
I was speaking specifically of you need to present discussion in a rational
manner, be able to argue your point rationally. "If I believe in god am I
irrational?" Yes and No. You may be a rational person in general, but when
it comes to your beliefs, then yes, you are irrational. To have faith in
something with no evidence to support your position and a great deal of
evidence against your position, then you are not rational about said
subject.
> if i believe i can do the impossible am i irrational?
Yes, that is irrational - if something is impossible, then it is by
definition, unacheivable. If you achive the goal, then it was never
impossible to start.
> am i irrational
> if i think i can change the entire world?
No, there are many people who have changed the entier world, or most of it
anyway.
> am i irrational if i think i can start a memetic based religion and gain
> many followers?
Possibly, the concept of "followers" doesnt really apply to this group. I
suppose those that followed jim jones to Brazil were caught in a memetic
trap and were irrational.
> i just wanna see what you mean by rational. so i can tell you whether i
> agree with you or not...
>
> im pretty lax as far as people go, in most respects. i only have one
> demand of people, that they be happy.
That is an irratonal demand - for a few reasons: A great many people have
good reason to not be happy - starvation, death in the family, tax audit.
Being happy all the time is not good, and what of those who dont want to be
happy? Shall you ignore their wishes?
Bill Roh
Sodom