Re: virus: kurzweil cuts the mustard

Ben Mack (ben_mack@deutschinc.com)
30 Dec 98 15:10:12 -0800


if consciousness is intelligence that is self aware, then I beg to
differ. Consciousness then becomes the understanding of consciousness. A
similar recreation is only a metaphore.

sodom wrote:
>i dont see why you need to understand consciousness to recreate
something
>similar (although it certainly helps). The power of the computer is not
all that
>important - its all architecture. Also, we are not attempting to
re-create a
>human consciousness, we are trying to create the conditions in which we
know
>consciousness works - a neural network. Also - you basic arguments arent
>rational.
>
>Robin Faichney wrote:
>
>> The point is that we don't understand consciousness in people,
>> so we can't build it into machines.
>
>We dont understand a lot about electons either, but we can make em do a
lot of
>tricks.
>
>
>> If you believe that any
>> sufficiently powerful computer would be conscious, then that's
>> just blind faith.
>> --
>> Robin
>
> I dont think anyone believes this.
>
>Bill Roh
>
>
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