RE: virus: MEME UPDATE: To Censor Or Not?

Dave Pape (
Mon, 16 Dec 1996 13:19:18 GMT

At 04:10 16/12/96 -0500, John wrote:
>David pape wrote:
>> >Obvious sources of nondetermination:
>> > Quantum mechanics. [Granted, magnifying it to macroscopic
>> >level is difficult. But not impossible--cf. Schrodinger's Cat.]


>I think one can write down some pretty spectacular theories, which
>are deterministic, exact, and nonlocal, but out of which will fall
>the result that we are unable to make measurements in defiance of
>Heisnberg's uncertainty principle. I believe Bohm, Aharanov, and
>perhaps others have worked on such theories.
>(Although, my own expertise in actually making calculations goes
>only as far as doing very 'undergraduate textbook' type stuff...)
>Your suggestion sounds like it would relate well with Godel's
>incompleteness theorems, which I regret that I've never studied
>from a technical viewpoint before, so can't do anything more than
>mention it.

Godel! That's the fella. And it's a THEOREM, is it? Excellent... the problem
is, now I need to UNDERSTAND it. See you all in a couple of years...

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