Re: virus: C of V: Another Religion

Dan Plante (
Sun, 02 Feb 1997 18:24:53 -0800

At 09:49 PM 2/2/97 GMT, Dave Pape wrote:
>At 13:49 31/01/97 -0800, Lior wrote:
>>David Rosdeitcher wrote:
>>It seems to me that the Church of Virus is promoting a mystical notion
>>denying free will and claiming that the 'meme' is a higher power that
>>individuals and societies.[CLIP]
>>I fully agree with your argument, only it's misplaced. CoV as an
>>'institute' if you want has no 'policy' towards free will. Try checking
>>in the archive for Dave Pape's earliest posts, I believe it was around
>>the middle of December. He claimed there's no such thing as free will as
>>we're fully controlled by memes, and we all objected it.
>Not all of you, Lior. Some fairly recent posts have involved people talking
>about de facto freewill, where the unpredictability of the universe gives an
>ILLUSION of choice, when this isn't necessarily so.
>And anyway, even if you all DID diagree, my memes are still there in the
>pool, with me bolstering them up at all opportunities.
>Dave Pape

Same here (although the weight of the verbiage I've spewed in my life is a
burden, indeed ;-)

The Metasystem Transition History of the "Dan Plante" System

initial conditions = data (conception)
control of data = information (conception to puberty)
control of information = knowledge (puberty to marriage)
control of knowledge = wisdom (marriage to divorce)