RE: virus: MEME UPDATE #4

Richard Brodie (
Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:09:34 -0800

Dave Pape wrote:

>Richard's level 3, /I/ think (and thanks, Richard, for posting the
>of your thoughts about L1, 2 & 3), is just the expression of
>metameta...metamemes with more meta's in front of them than Richard's
>level 2.

It's interesting that posting with clarity about Level 3 leads to
increased MISunderstanding, not understanding.
>The point of my "Hokusai" signature, the waves on the ocean, was to
>give an
>image to the meta-ness of memes which are active in our heads over
>time. I
>just can't level this image with Richard's concept of levels of

Great! Keep holding the dissonance. You're on your way!
>One final point: Richard, you can't surely be arguing that level 3
>corresponds to a non-memetic process, can you?

Yes. This particular process seems extremely difficult to transmit. I
don't think memetics is a useful model for describing it. It's emergent.

Richard Brodie +1.206.688.8600
CEO, Brodie Technology Group, Inc., Bellevue, WA, USA
Do you know what a "meme" is?