Re: virus: Rationality

Eva-Lise Carlstrom (
Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:27:32 -0800 (PST)

On Thu, 27 Feb 1997 wrote:

> David McF wrote:
> > Are all ideas memes?
> Erm ... I presumed so, but then during a conversation with Toby (?)
> he mentioned that something was "part of the proven world" or something
> similar. This makes me wonder whether a fact is a meme.

As far as whether facts are memes, what Richard said: facts are memes that
are widely agreed on. (and they may even be useful!)

But I'd say not all ideas are memes for a different reason: Not all ideas
are directly communicable. Zen teachers know this, which is why they make
their students go through weird and disorienting mental experiences, in an
attempt to make them understand things their teachers can't just explain
to them (Sometimes even directly-communicable ideas may be better spread
by indirect communication; Richard knows this too).